cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:20:57 PM)
Hello, How is everyone tonight?

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:22:40 PM)
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Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:22:47 PM)
Hi Cindy

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:23:43 PM)
Hey Carol

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:23:54 PM)
How are things?

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:24:04 PM)
Where are you from Carol?

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:24:12 PM)

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:24:16 PM)
and you?

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:24:18 PM)
Pretty good thanks.....NC here

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:24:29 PM)
Practically neighbors

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:24:38 PM)
This is my first time in this room

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:24:50 PM)
Do you have a child with apd or yourself?

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:25:00 PM)
I have a 9 yoa daughter

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:25:06 PM)
My daughter is 7

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:25:27 PM)
Waiting to have her tested. The appointment is in July

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:25:43 PM)
BRB, my daughter is screaming for me.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:25:51 PM)

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:29:27 PM)
I'm sorry, my husband is trying to get them to bed but my oldest, Krystie is the tough one.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:29:33 PM)
She's the one with CAPD

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:30:26 PM)
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Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:30:33 PM)
Hi Dorien

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:31:01 PM)

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:31:14 PM)
How was your week?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:31:59 PM)
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Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:32:08 PM)
Hi Iynne

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:32:24 PM)
Hi Lynne

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:32:42 PM)
hi, how is everyone tonight?

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:32:53 PM)
Lousy, sinus infection

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:33:26 PM)
oh no! I have been there and done that more times than I care to remember.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:33:36 PM)
Yes, me too

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:33:37 PM)
Anyone here homeschooling?

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:33:52 PM)
I wanted to try it, read about it but never got up the courage.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:33:57 PM)
I wish I had the time

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:34:12 PM)
do you lynne?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:34:15 PM)
We pulled my son this year and are homeschooling and having a wonderful experience. So much so, that they are talking about pulling him from speech.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:34:37 PM)
I am just concerned about taking him out and then there being problems later on.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:34:55 PM)
That's impressive. My relationship, I think would become even more strained with her if I did it. Do you have any problems like that?

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:35:16 PM)
What kind of problems are you concerned about?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:35:51 PM)
Not with my son with CAPD. However, I was concerned about that with my older one and so we really talked about it and I told him what I couldn't and wouldn't put up with and he worked hard this summer to change.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:35:57 PM)
Hi Lynne,

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:36:17 PM)
You are home schooling two kids?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:36:43 PM)
I guess, I am concerned about whether or not in the long term it is a good idea or not. Hi Cindy. No, Carol, I am homeshcooling 3

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:37:00 PM)
lynne, what state are you in. Oh my God, how is it going?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:37:07 PM)
I have a 4th grader, 2nd grader (CAPD kiddo) and my kindergartener.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:37:29 PM)
I am in VA. and it has been suprisingly fun and relatively easy.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:37:34 PM)
thats great Lynne, I wish you all the success

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:37:41 PM)
Do you have them in anything with other kids, eg. sports, dancing etc?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:37:56 PM)
I just had to make a few organizational changes in me and it is working pretty good.

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 8:37:58 PM)
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cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:38:03 PM)
I would think in some ways it would be less stressful to home school

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:38:05 PM)
Hi Peggy

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 8:38:07 PM)
Hi Everyone!

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 8:38:17 PM)
What's up tonight?

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:38:21 PM)
Hi Peggy

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:38:22 PM)
Not with my daughter, cindy

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:38:23 PM)
Hi Peggy, doing good...How are you?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:38:28 PM)
yes. They take karate/tae kwon doe and gymnastics and piano.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:38:33 PM)
We're talking about home schooling.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:38:40 PM)
hi Peggy.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:38:43 PM)
That is great, lynne.

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 8:38:49 PM)
Pretty good. I'm at work and a little busy, so I'll be in and out of chat...

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:38:55 PM)
What problems are you worried about?

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:38:58 PM)
I know what you mean Carol...I have 9 yoa twin girls, can't imagine home schooling them sometimes

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:39:25 PM)
Cindy, do they both have APD?

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:39:32 PM)
I agree I have 4 children

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:39:57 PM)
Gregory is the one I have with CApd and he is truly making some wonderful progress. I guess, I just wasn't prepared for the school to come to me and say he has met most of his goals and he isn't being held back because of his APD.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:40:09 PM)
The advantage I see with home schooling them is I can work with them at their level and go at the pace they need

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:40:28 PM)
No, just one of them has apd

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:40:31 PM)
That's true and use a method they can learn with

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:40:32 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:40:44 PM)
sorry cap. lock was on.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:41:09 PM)
My problems in school right now center on speed tests so I could certainly eliminate them

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:41:13 PM)
Hi Dorien, what ages are your children

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:41:15 PM)
Cindy, you are sooo right and I found a really fabulous program that works so much on phonics that

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:42:20 PM)
Greg actually spells better than his older brother, who didn't get this method.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:42:20 PM)
It is called the Spalding Method of reading and writing.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:42:20 PM)
12, 10,9, 6,

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:42:20 PM)
I have alot of problems with school even giving my child phonics

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 8:42:20 PM)
Has anyone used phono-graphics? the Read America program?

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:42:23 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:42:52 PM)
It works with phonograms and things and truly helps them to learn their blends which we know they all have problems with.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:43:51 PM)
Peggy, I haven't tried that. I am using the A Beka system for my kids but not for the Christianity aspect, but because it is a challenging curriculm

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:43:51 PM)
Is program program very expensive

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:44:08 PM)
Not that I mind the Christianity part though. Better than guns.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:44:20 PM)
Good point, lynne

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:45:02 PM)
I didn't think it was expensive. It would have cost me $9000 for all 3 to go to private school and it cost me $900 for all 3 kids kits and all 3 parent/teacher kits.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:45:12 PM)
Has anyone had any problems with their public school getting the servies that their child needs

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:45:16 PM)
And you can pick and choose what you get so you can get the price down.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:45:28 PM)
I did at first.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:45:31 PM)
you can order this online lynee

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:45:31 PM)
Cindy, I think everyone has some form of trouble with that

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:45:46 PM)
I just happened to be a nervous person by nature and was afraid I would miss a subject so I bought everything.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:45:50 PM)
But now they do not play with me very much.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:45:56 PM)
Cindy that is why I pulled my son

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:46:56 PM)
We had sooo much trouble. It got so bad we found out that the principal of the school was sabotaging my son's case and IEP so we couldn't get an auditory trainer

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:47:07 PM)
and we wound up on the brink of court.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:47:10 PM)
for the last 3 yrs I have told them that my daughter needed phonics to read, and the speech therapist at school said she would not do very well w/that even though her reports from Duke Univ said otherwise

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:47:30 PM)

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:47:36 PM)
I've got to go, sorry, hope to see you next week.

Carol (ID=104) (May 8, 2001 8:47:41 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:48:12 PM)
Gregory was diagnosed with severe to profound CAPD and he is reading wonderfully.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:48:18 PM)
Tricia doea not have an IEP

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:48:27 PM)
I go for her IEP this friday, and I'm asking for a trained speech therapist for my daughter, someone who knows what he/she is doing

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:48:38 PM)
Is that b/c of the reading program he is in

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:48:43 PM)
wow! I sure would push for an IEP.

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:49:05 PM)
I got a 504 as the school knows how I work with her at home

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:49:40 PM)
yes. He understands that there are special phonograms and things and that the letters "ea" can say many different sounds and he is doing wonderfully.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:49:54 PM)
I am having to spend $5000 to get my daughter ready for 4th grade...b/c the school did not teach her phonics

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:50:07 PM)

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:50:07 PM)
I will have to look into that program

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:50:30 PM)
I'm not happy about that...and right now I think they should pay

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:50:44 PM)
I am going to give you th e name of the book I am following and you can get it for $16 on the Barnes and Noble website.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:51:09 PM)

DORIEN (ID=105) (May 8, 2001 8:51:35 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:51:44 PM)
the book is called The Writing Road to Reading. By Romalda Bishop Spalding and Walter T. Spalding

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:52:00 PM)
thank you

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:52:04 PM)
It gives you the flash cards and actually tells you what to say.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:52:18 PM)
When you are explaining it to your daughter.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:52:54 PM)
thats good.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:52:57 PM)
I am using it with my 4th grader who doesn't have CAPD and he likes it because it doesn't look baby"ish"

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:53:32 PM)
My kindergartener is using it to learn to read. She has been reading now since she was 4

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:53:45 PM)
thats great

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:54:11 PM)
I know people who are using this with kids with dyslexia and it is helping them "iron" things out in their minds.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:54:31 PM)
do you see fast results with this program

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:54:50 PM)
It depends on how deep the holes are.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:55:07 PM)
there holes are pretty deep

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:55:42 PM)
my other daughter does not have L.D., but she is also behind in reading b/c she did not get the phonics,

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:55:46 PM)
CJ's weren't that bad but it does seem to go pretty quick because she doesn't want less than 30 words per week on their spelling lists or books.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:55:58 PM)
That's CJ's deal too.

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:56:18 PM)
my 8 yoa son is the only one that had a stucture phonics class and he is doing great

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:56:37 PM)
I wish our county would do phonics too.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:57:07 PM)
In this book she will explain why and how the public schools buy "basil" readers.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:57:16 PM)
and how uneffective they are.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:57:20 PM)
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cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:57:40 PM)
I'm pushing that right now w/our school, b/c no parent should have to spend $5000 on each child b/c the school failed to give them what they needed

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:57:46 PM)
hi ya'll

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:57:52 PM)
It's a million dollar business they got going there.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:57:56 PM)

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:58:00 PM)
Hi mama

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:58:04 PM)
Hi mama

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:58:09 PM)
I got a problem

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:58:27 PM)

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:58:28 PM)
whats wrong mama

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:58:38 PM)
the school want to keep Jill in the first grade again next year

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:58:55 PM)
again, meaning

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:58:57 PM)
I don' t think this would be good for her

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:59:00 PM)
How does Jill feel about this?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:59:09 PM)
she is in the first grade now

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:59:24 PM)
How old is she

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:59:35 PM)
she has been upset and crying that she is so stupid and will never pass first grade

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:59:44 PM)
I haven't told her about this

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 8:59:49 PM)

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 8:59:54 PM)
6 will be 7 in June

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 8:59:58 PM)
I held both my daughters back in 1st grade

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 9:00:14 PM)
and I held my son back in kindergarten

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:00:33 PM)
Is there another school nearby she could be changed to, to easy the transition?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:00:45 PM)
the educational testing I have had done shows her on grade level or just below and sliightly above

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:00:55 PM)
no other schools

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:00:57 PM)
What are the reasons they are giving you for doing this?

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 9:01:01 PM)
it was the best decision I could have made, One is academics, and two, thank about the maturity level

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:01:06 PM)
her grades in class

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:01:28 PM)
Any resource services at the present time for her?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:01:33 PM)
she does fine on tests when given one on one

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:01:43 PM)
Have they tried this avenue?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:01:48 PM)
no accomidations as of yet

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:02:04 PM)
her appt for apd testing is June 21

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:02:25 PM)
by the county or and audiologist of your choosing?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:02:36 PM)
my choosing

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:02:53 PM)
I just worry about that because our county tried to pull some shady crap and we went on our own and got the real scoop.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:02:58 PM)
I'm doing it on my own the school still claims they have never heard of it

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:03:07 PM)
And even then they really messed with us.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:03:27 PM)
Most teachers are ignorant to it.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:03:38 PM)
I'm going through the University they also provide support and advocacy for parents

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:03:49 PM)
and they can be cruel out of frustration.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:03:57 PM)
Wow! what state are you in?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:04:26 PM)
Jill puts on a front of not caring when she isn't understanding this is all they see

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:04:33 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:05:34 PM)
so does my son. He will smile when he doesn't understand and people mistake that for understanding. When in reality he told me if he smiles at people they aren't mean or yell at him if he doesn't "get it".

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:05:55 PM)
It's amazing their little defense mechanisms they come up with

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:06:09 PM)
poor baby to see the world like that

cindy (ID=103) (May 8, 2001 9:06:18 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:06:21 PM)
Is there a bridge 1st grade class

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:06:32 PM)
They have one here.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:06:40 PM)
plus a Jr. kindergarten

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:06:44 PM)
I don't know about that. It hasn't been mentioned

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:07:20 PM)
I don't think they can hold her back if she can pass the assessment testing.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:07:36 PM)
do you know about getting an IEP in place during the summer?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:07:44 PM)
However, be honest about her struggling and tell her next year would be easier and

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:07:46 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:07:58 PM)
We had to do part of ours in the summer.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:08:07 PM)
but every state is different.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:08:23 PM)
that this doesn't mean she is dumb.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:08:31 PM)
yeah and mississippi is backward about most things

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:08:51 PM)
It just kills me haw defeated she is feeling already

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:08:55 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:09:57 PM)
My mother-in-law was sooooo angry with me when I showed my son (then 6) his test scores and talked with him about his problems but my son and his brother and sister are alot more sympathtic towards other with disabilities plus with each other.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:10:03 PM)
i did find out by accident that the school is already in possesion (sp) of an fm system

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:10:35 PM)
That was one of our biggest battles.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:10:42 PM)
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mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:10:49 PM)
hi diane

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:11:07 PM)
Hi Mama

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:11:27 PM)
hi Diane

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:11:40 PM)
Hi Peggy and Lynne

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:11:42 PM)
It also helped him to be easier on himself.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:11:53 PM)
we've been talking about Jills school wanting to retain her in first grade

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:12:19 PM)
I wouldn't let them do that mama

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:12:41 PM)
He would understand he needed to repeat what I was saying to him and that it's ok, that he doesn't understand songs and stuff.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:12:54 PM)
I would really talk opennly to her about it.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:13:12 PM)
mama are you in favor /

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:13:16 PM)
Telling her ALL your concerns and views. She will appreciate it.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:13:27 PM)
Jill figured out a way of reading befor she started kindergarden I think the words were pictures that made a picture of what they said in her head, This sounding words makes little sence to her

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:13:54 PM)
And she will feel like she has had some say in whether she goes on or stays.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:14:12 PM)
That's probalbly a good idea

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:14:19 PM)
But Phonic is sooo important.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:14:25 PM)
mama that was my Jake's problem too, and they wanted to retain him also i refused, it would have totally sqaushed his self-esteem

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:14:59 PM)
I can't be so sure like Diane.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:15:12 PM)
I haven't to;d Jill yet but she has still been upset and crying that she is stupid

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:15:13 PM)
I have seen both ways with good and bad outcomes.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:15:39 PM)
each child is different of course but that would have been the case here holding him back would have done no good

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:16:12 PM)
My Jake came home daily saying he was stupid in 1st grade

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:16:26 PM)
I have one friend who kept him on and now he is in JR. High and the kids are making fun of him and he is miserable. And she did it all in the name of self esteem. There is self esteem in a child knowing what his limits are and aren't.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:16:28 PM)
It would definately be different if there had been any accomidations or if they were willing to implement some but I don't think just the same thing over will do any good

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:16:46 PM)
until he got the help he needed he would never have gotten phonics

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:17:26 PM)
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mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:17:35 PM)
hi maryellen

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:17:45 PM)
hi there

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:17:48 PM)

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:17:58 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:18:20 PM)
It all depends on the situation, has Jill been formally dx'd mama ?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:18:28 PM)
You first need the IEP and diagnosis. That will change their tune if there are suggested accomidations from the audiologist.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:18:53 PM)
she goes for testing june 21 she has to be 7 first her b'day is the 10 of june

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:19:42 PM)
Peggy, did you post a bulletin in ld boards?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:19:47 PM)
I personally think it is a crime to hold back a child that most likely has a undiagnosed LD and that was the case for us

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:20:50 PM)
anyone yet from eastern Massachusetts?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:21:00 PM)
If ashe cant' understand phonics because of her APD then she should be given the chance under different circumstances

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:21:30 PM)
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mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:21:36 PM)
I've been wondering about delaying the decission about 1st or 2nd grade until later in the summer when we have more info

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:21:54 PM)
Hi again ladies, sorry got booted

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:22:04 PM)
hi cindy so sorry

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:22:11 PM)
those circumstances would be having her APD addressed

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:22:30 PM)
Hi cindy

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:22:35 PM)
Hi Diane

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:22:40 PM)
HI again

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:22:46 PM)
Hi lynee

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:22:52 PM)
that is what I'm thinking. She also has an ADHD dx that has not been addressed

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:22:52 PM)

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:22:52 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:23:04 PM)
Indiana here

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:23:04 PM)
Virginia here.

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:23:09 PM)
Hi Maryellen, no......NC here

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:23:15 PM)
not here I'm Eastern Mississippi

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:23:52 PM)
I am with Diane. Get your diagnosis first. Take it to the school and see what they can do.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:23:58 PM)
mama I'm speaking from my experience, 2nd grade was 180 degree difference once his needs were met

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:24:13 PM)
The admisistration has to work all summer and they will get the ball rolling

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:24:17 PM)
did your school meet your childs needs

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:24:21 PM)
That is what i'm thinking would happen

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:24:24 PM)
How is services in va. and N.C?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:24:33 PM)
I had him privately tested the summer between 1st and 2nd

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:24:35 PM)
right now, not too good

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:25:11 PM)
I already know she has much higher grades when her tests are given one on one

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:25:16 PM)
mama i would hold off saying anything to Jill till you get the dx

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:25:21 PM)
I agree with Diane. The little boy I told you about, is still floundering because mom and dad are still trying to treat him for ADD which he doesn't have.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:25:51 PM)
I would wait on the dx

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:25:55 PM)
ADD and APD and other LD's can be confused or even comorbid

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:26:05 PM)

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:26:20 PM)
Jill is on Adderall for ADHD and has made all the difference in her behavior and visual organization but nothing for her verbal

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:26:22 PM)
but I know the family background and this is the easiest for them to deal with.

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:26:33 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:26:40 PM)
give him a pill and let him vege is their thought.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:26:43 PM)
hi debbie

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:26:48 PM)
hi there!

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:26:51 PM)
mama Jake is also ADD and takes Concerta

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:26:55 PM)
hi there Debbie

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:26:58 PM)
I had my daughter tested in the first grade by a private psy, and she said that Jen had a severe language disorder that was not all related to her delayed speech

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:27:06 PM)
do ya'll like the concerta?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:27:15 PM)
Love it :)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:27:24 PM)

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:27:24 PM)
my daughter is on that and the teachers can not tell a difference

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:27:34 PM)
I've heard it helps more socially and less organizationally

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:27:45 PM)
It's not effective cindy ?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:27:45 PM)
i hope you all got the message that I would be late.

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:27:47 PM)
of course I haven't told them she is on it either, I wanted them to see the difference on their own

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:27:55 PM)
They KNOW at school if Jill has not had her meds

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:28:12 PM)
I have refused to do the med.s I have just don't like the long term effects.

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:28:15 PM)
Hi Debbie

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:28:25 PM)
It definately helps my Jake with attention

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:28:39 PM)
Hi debbie

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:28:41 PM)
Has anyone else tried the homeschooling route?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:28:43 PM)
I was out of town several weeks earlier this year and dh and ds forgot to give her her meds

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:28:45 PM)
hi debbie

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:28:51 PM)
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cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:28:56 PM)
Hi baker34

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:28:59 PM)
I would love to home school but I have to work

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:29:03 PM)
hi baker34

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:29:05 PM)
hi baker

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:29:12 PM)
hi baker

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:29:15 PM)
Hi! What are you all talking about?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:29:48 PM)
what do you do when your school does not recognize your child having a L.D., but all the test show that she does,

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:29:49 PM)
mama is Jill's appt at the university ?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:30:15 PM)
cindy if the school's test show the LD, on what grounds is the school denying it?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:30:22 PM)
scream and drive them crazy till they acknowledge it cindy

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:30:23 PM)
yes they have been very helpful at Ole miss so far

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:30:36 PM)
thats great mama

Peggy (ID=107) (May 8, 2001 9:30:51 PM)
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Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:31:01 PM)
school can't dismoss their findings

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:31:07 PM)
They will help me with the school and getting Jill what she needs there also

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:31:12 PM)
oops thats dismiss

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:31:13 PM)
testing at school show she does not qualify for l.d. services except for speech,

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:31:29 PM)
but I have had her tested else where

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:31:43 PM)
why not? If there test shows that there is a disability, she should qualify.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:31:54 PM)
what did the other tests show

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:31:54 PM)
I agree baker

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:32:04 PM)
they all agree that she has a l.d. but I am having a problem getting her the sevices that she needs

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:32:07 PM)
You do have a right to have other testing done if you don't agree with their findings

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:32:25 PM)
I believe you do mama

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:32:29 PM)
what other services are you asking for?

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:32:32 PM)
the l.d. has to show that it impacts her learning., where do you live cindy?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:32:37 PM)
that she has a severe langauge disorder and auditory disability, and this test was done at Duke Univ

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:32:51 PM)
it does show it impacts her learning

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:32:55 PM)
have you shown that test to the school and had it admitted to her record?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:33:00 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:33:09 PM)
then they should accept it by law

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:33:09 PM)
oh yes, they have gotten everything

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:33:17 PM)
is it one of those situations where she is smart enough to compensate and pass?

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:33:18 PM)
call the L>D>A. and get a list of advocates

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:33:31 PM)
what exactly do the tests from Duke show?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:33:52 PM)
well, I'm slowly educating myself

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:33:52 PM)
I am hiring an advocate, she is an SLP

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:34:00 PM)
cindy how old is your daughter ?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:34:12 PM)
do they say what kind of help she will need?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:34:17 PM)
I have called , but they are not taking on new clients right now b/c they have so many right now

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:34:22 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:34:32 PM)
my son is 9 cindy

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:34:35 PM)
she needs phonics

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:34:46 PM)
and the school has not given that to her

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:35:00 PM)
Tim is 14, we used an advocate when he was in third grade, where do you live?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:35:02 PM)
is the SLP at school going to work on phonics with her?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:35:09 PM)
and the speech therpist at school said she wouldn't do well in phonics b/c of her auditory processing

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:35:33 PM)
I have her iep meeting this friday,

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:35:48 PM)
and I was told to ask for the moon

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:35:54 PM)
so I am,

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:36:02 PM)
you know you don't have to sign it until you agree

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:36:09 PM)
I know that now

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:36:10 PM)
I know that VCU will sometimes send the person who did the testing of a student to an IEP meeting. Is it possible that someone from Duke would accompany you and explain their position?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:36:19 PM)
cindy don't back down you have excellant ammo

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:36:42 PM)
Ole Miss said they would go with me to the school

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:36:53 PM)
I think I do, I bought a great book, The complete IEP guide

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:37:08 PM)
and that has help me alot w/what I have the right to ask for

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:37:09 PM)
if somoene if volunterring to go to the school with you.........take them

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:37:15 PM)
I have to wait until sept. to get into childrens APD program

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:37:21 PM)
I will

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:37:22 PM)
yes take them

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:37:27 PM)
I wished I had thought of that earlier....that would have been good

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:37:39 PM)
If they can't, I would tell the schools that you would like to bring the IEP down to Duke to the person who tested and have them look it over.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:37:54 PM)
good idea baker

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:37:57 PM)
thats a good idea

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:38:00 PM)
I went to an IEP last week with a gal from here in was a unique perspective to be able to sit back and be there for support for her

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:38:16 PM)
my daughter will be re-evaluated at duke in june

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:38:21 PM)
I bet debbie

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:38:29 PM)
thats what we all need

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:38:30 PM)
You can come up here to Mississippi and go with me debbie

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:38:33 PM)
Also, in the report from DUKE, does it mention any specific programs that would address your daughters phonics needs?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:38:38 PM)

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:38:43 PM)
all of the reports do

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:38:54 PM)
what program are the recommending?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:38:59 PM)
Mamawooley, I wish I could, I still have to get through my meetings yet this's not going real well....

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:39:02 PM)
and right now I question the qualifications of the school speech therapist

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:39:17 PM)
I hear that.

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:39:31 PM)
Can I use the recommendations from Duke and ask the school to use those trecommendations

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:39:44 PM)
It's going to be mid summer before we get that far

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:39:50 PM)
You can use them, but they do not have to provide those exact services.

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:40:00 PM)
I would love to be a full time advocate for kids with APD...........but heck , im having trouble getting Sarah help...When I went with Peggy I could sit back and look at things,,but with Sarah, Im so emotional during the meetings, it's hard to think straight

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:40:04 PM)
but something similar w/proven results

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:40:09 PM)
what do you mean?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:40:14 PM)
They might try to talk you into something different, cheaper usually.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:40:30 PM)
cindy what do they recommend /

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:40:36 PM)
proven results that it works

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:40:48 PM)
brb got to put Jill back in bed

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:40:48 PM)
phonics, earrobics,

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:40:52 PM)
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debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:40:57 PM)
hey Marge

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:41:01 PM)
Hi Marge

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:41:04 PM)
Hi Marge

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:41:12 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:41:13 PM)
cindy my son uses Earobics at school and home and has had good results

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:41:14 PM)
The earobics program is not that expensive and a lot of school districts are using it.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:41:19 PM)
Hi Marge

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:41:26 PM)
Are you from Mass?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:41:30 PM)
We did earobics at home too.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:41:31 PM)
hi debbie, maryellen, cindy, lynne, baker, cast of thousands

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:41:34 PM)
<--- Georgia

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:41:35 PM)
The home version is only $60

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:41:40 PM)
I just found out after all this time, that my school district has Earobics.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:41:50 PM)
baker: are you kim baker??

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:41:59 PM)
yes. How are you?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:42:01 PM)
It has really helped my Jake

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:42:01 PM)
It's been 3 years and they just mentioned it for the first time.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:42:10 PM)
baker: fine, thanks!! and you??

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:42:14 PM)
I think its awful that the public school system does not tell you of all the programs that are availbable for your child

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:42:17 PM)
debbie thats outrageous

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:42:19 PM)
Hanging in there.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:42:40 PM)
(apologizes in advance for having to pop in & out of the chat... still getting oldest to bed)

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:42:45 PM)
I just found out I can ask for speech therapy during the summer months, and the school never told me this

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:42:59 PM)
My advocates name was marge, thought you might be her. What is earobics?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:43:07 PM)
What's outrageous for us is that Sarah is now failing two here we go for a new round of tests with the school slp....*sigh*......

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:43:07 PM)
I honestly don't think that a lot of people working in schools know what the schools have. I know in our district that is true.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:43:09 PM)
baker: by your fingernails, or by the skin of your teeth??

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:43:10 PM)
and we have been going to that school for 4 years

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:43:24 PM)
Does everyone work outside the home?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:43:27 PM)
I'm finding that to be true

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:43:33 PM)
I work parttime lynne

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:43:34 PM)
cindy: our district only gives speech therapy in the summer to kids who have severe problems

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:43:37 PM)
skin of my teeth lately. LOL

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:43:37 PM)

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:43:40 PM)
back, Maybe she'll stay this time

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:43:41 PM)
lynne: at home full time

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:43:45 PM)
thanks Diane.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:43:55 PM)
Yes I work for the school didtrict

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:44:02 PM)
I work full time in the schools as a job coach for students with disabilities

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:44:05 PM)
debbie: is it time to haul in the sped attorney?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:44:07 PM)
I'm a socail worker for Head start

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:44:10 PM)
I work outside of the home (besides trying to keep up with the NCAPD)

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:44:18 PM)
same here cindy. I work 24 hrs

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:44:24 PM)
bunch of busy people here.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:44:32 PM)

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:44:52 PM)
dealing w/the school is a full time job

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:44:52 PM)
Marge, I will be honest, I have been on the phone with sped ed attorneys, but I can't afford them.........I"ve also been on the phone with the DOE OCR...

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:44:55 PM)
baker: so you work mostly with senior high students? or college?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:45:18 PM)
what plans do you (all) have set up for the summer?

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:45:25 PM)
debbie: what does OCR tell you?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:45:28 PM)
Sr. High. It's a great job, and I'll miss it this summer. I can't believe we don't provide services over the summer.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:45:30 PM)

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:45:34 PM)
We are working on one on one reading projects.....

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:45:44 PM)
I don't work during the summer

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:45:47 PM)
I just got my Jkae enrolled in a Orton-Gillingham program for the summer

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:45:49 PM)
playing catch up w/my daughter to get her ready for 4th grade

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:45:51 PM)
OCR sent me complaint forms.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:46:01 PM)
we are doing several structured activities... no therapy. have some travel plans

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:46:02 PM)
I mean to help with their needs? I am having problems deciding if I should let him have a break for

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:46:06 PM)
thats great Diane. that is a good program

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:46:07 PM)
Marge: Thanks for all your great advice about my son lasst month.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:46:18 PM)
(wonders if I can brag on one of my kids for a bit??)

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 9:46:23 PM)
I'm a nurse, yes dealing with the school is a full time job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I I did that debbie

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:46:23 PM)
Jill will be getting some tutoring

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:46:26 PM)

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:46:29 PM)
baker: oh, you are more than welcome :-)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:46:29 PM)
I'm thrilled cindy he will be in 4th also

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:46:31 PM)
of course

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:46:45 PM)
We are working on reading some smaller build confidence....

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:46:46 PM)
I wished I could give mind a break, but I can't, they lost another year at school

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:46:49 PM)
please do Marge!

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:47:10 PM)
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Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:47:11 PM)
*ahem* My oldest (age 12), who has been interested in archaeology since 3rd grade, has been invited to join an excavation for 2 days - 1 week this summer... with a college group

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:47:16 PM)
welcome mac

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:47:25 PM)
kewl marge

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:47:25 PM)
wow...marge thats great

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:47:26 PM)
building confidence is 24/7 here debbie

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:47:31 PM)
Maryellen, I hate to go the route of the OCR, but if I have to...I will

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:47:32 PM)
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baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:47:33 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:47:38 PM)
cool marge

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:47:42 PM)
hi melanie

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:47:45 PM)
hi melanie

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:47:46 PM)
Wow!!!! That's great Marge. Where is the expedition?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:47:46 PM)
That is great Marge!!

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:47:49 PM)
hi Melanie

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:47:50 PM)
it was the wildest thing: we called the college lab asking about open houses, workshops & summer courses

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:47:52 PM)
ho melanie

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:48:01 PM)
and the next thing i know, she's being invited on a dig!

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:48:05 PM)
what exactly is ocr

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:48:13 PM)
Hi, I so glad I finally caught up with ya'll

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:48:14 PM)
Office of Civil Rights

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:48:15 PM)
dig will be near Savannah, GA... in the swamps.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:48:28 PM)
eeeww snakes

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:48:29 PM)
What an adventure!!!

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:48:30 PM)
hi everyone

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:48:31 PM)
my son would think that was the coolest Marge he loves that sort of stuff

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:48:34 PM)
and they help you sort thru all of this

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:48:36 PM)
Wish I could go.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:48:38 PM)
the lab director said bring plenty of insect repellent

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:48:51 PM)
no doubt, and high boots.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:48:57 PM)
baker: you got it!

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:49:06 PM)
what fun

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:49:31 PM)
what I do, is I take what the kids are interested in (or need to FIND interest in), and scout for activities to do based on those interests or needs.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:49:47 PM)
That's the best way to do it.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:50:11 PM)
We will be going to Michigan for 3 weeks after the O-G program

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:50:12 PM)
my kids are waaaaay advanced in reading, so the college text she's reading now for archaeology is just fine for her. soooo proud of my kids.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:50:23 PM)
diane: enjoy the cooler weather there!

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:50:32 PM)
where in Michigan Diane?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:50:40 PM)
That is wonderful. Is she really excited about the whole thing?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:50:42 PM)
I love it up there marge it's heaven on earth

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:51:10 PM)
I have question in regards to two areas the first is FM systems and the second is have any of you repeated 5K with your children

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:51:13 PM)
outside of Mackinaw city little mac

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:51:24 PM)
there is a good math workbook series I can recommend: we used it last summer, and will continue with the same books, i think: Ideal Publishing Company... series of books... geometry, math, algebra

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:51:46 PM)
we were just talking about my dd Jill repeating 1st grade or nott

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:51:49 PM)
baker: hugely excited, and honored. this is not a tourist dig. it's a dig for a culture about which little is known.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:51:50 PM)
My husband is from Marquette we go on vaction there every year

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:51:58 PM)
melanie: fire away on fm questions.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:52:10 PM)
<--- is ready to catch any & all FM bullets :-)))

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:52:13 PM)
way up north little mac

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:52:20 PM)
mama i'm in the same boat this year

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:52:42 PM)
litttttlemac where are you from now /

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:52:56 PM)
I have a son who repeated Pre-K, that is my only experience

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:52:58 PM)
Jill's school already has a system what do I need to do to get them to let her try it

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:53:08 PM)
We are stationed in Illinois

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:53:18 PM)
Indiana here little

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:53:18 PM)
mama: is FM in the audiologist's recommendations for your daughter?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 9:53:27 PM)
my daughters repeated 1st grade and my son repeated kindergarten

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:53:56 PM)
The testing i had done privately shows Jill on grade level but she can't pass tests given in class

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:54:17 PM)
debbie one of the schools I go to has a 1st grade room with a full field FM system it is awsome

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:54:20 PM)
Where in Indiana Diane? My sister in law lives near Indianapolis

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:54:23 PM)
mama: have you had audiological testing done?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:54:28 PM)
haven't gotten that far yet her apd testing is scheduled for june 21

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:54:32 PM)
Indpls littlemac

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:55:05 PM)
only one person in the whole state who can do it

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:55:09 PM)
Marge-I waswondering how well your success was with the system - my teacher is willing to try it, but we have 12 days of school left and I'm going to use it in tutoring and speech therapy over the summer break-did your schild respond well with it in the classroom

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:55:12 PM)
My youngest son will be tested over the summer

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:55:30 PM)
mama: a little background: FM systems aren't a cure-all for academic difficulties. there are some selected situations where it makes special sense.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:55:34 PM)
I did not know the school tests over the summer

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:55:46 PM)
My son got his unit for 2 months. It was AMAZING the difference.

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:55:59 PM)
what are those selected situations

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:56:01 PM)
melanie: we've never completed a 30 day trial with FM in the classroom... but if you can try for 12 days, go for it

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 9:56:12 PM)
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KMan (ID=118) (May 8, 2001 9:56:19 PM)
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Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:56:20 PM)
melanie: if the child has an unusual degree of difficulty w/background noise

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:56:20 PM)
Hi Cindi

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:56:27 PM)
Hi Cindi

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:56:28 PM)
hi cindi, hi kman

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:56:31 PM)
Hi Kman

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:56:32 PM)
HE spent 2 years in kind. and in April didn't know half his ABC"s and couldn't count past 29

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:56:36 PM)
What is happening is when she is given a test one on one she knows the material but in a class room with everbody there she doesn't know what is goimg on

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:56:37 PM)
hi cindi Kman

KMan (ID=118) (May 8, 2001 9:56:39 PM)

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:56:55 PM)
melanie: EVERYONE has more trouble understanding in noise than in quiet, but some apd'ers are really at a disadvantage.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:56:58 PM)
after 2 months with his fm unit, he could add, sub. and read on a first grade level.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 9:56:58 PM)
its me Cindy.....lost the room and then couldn't come back in as Cindy

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:57:05 PM)
Yes!! background noise was a difficulty during our audiological testing

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:57:11 PM)
Mama:Why can't she be pulled out for testing.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:57:15 PM)
melanie: some kids with attention problems will benefit from FM

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:57:21 PM)
how old is your child Lyne, what grade?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 9:57:35 PM)
mama that is in Jake IEP he gets pulled for most tests

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:57:40 PM)
he is now in 2nd.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:57:55 PM)
'cause the school is goofy. I have heard so many times but we have 24 other students

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:58:01 PM)
melanie: and kids with slight hearing loss also benefit. kids with more severe loss, who use hearing aids, can use a personal FM system in conjunction w/the aids.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 9:58:02 PM)
you can have classroom modifications

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:58:08 PM)
and no teacher aides?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:58:09 PM)
This all happened when he was in kindergarten and first.

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 9:58:10 PM)
Sarah get's pulled out for long tests and has extra time on reg tests..she can alsomove to a table by herself too

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:58:19 PM)
my youngest son is in 2nd too, he is at a end of first grade reading level

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:58:25 PM)
mama: a soundfield fm system can benefit the whole class

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:58:31 PM)
yes they have aides but they are goofy

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:58:38 PM)
I homeschool now, Littlemac.

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:58:40 PM)
They did diagnosis CAPD/ADD so attention is a part of the problem-but I think the lack of attention is due to the APD problems

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:58:45 PM)
(back in a few... must check on a daughter)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:58:51 PM)
so our situation is different now.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 9:58:54 PM)
goofy is not a reason for not providing an accomodation like that.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 9:59:01 PM)
melanie: what kind of audiology workup did they do?

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:59:19 PM)
Jill takes Adderall which helps behavior and visual organization but not verbal

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 9:59:30 PM)
what is adderall mama

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:59:35 PM)
I know this

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 9:59:36 PM)
my youngest son is PDD not CAPD but some of the issues are the same

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 9:59:46 PM)
OH, ACPT-let me go get the test to remember the others

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 9:59:49 PM)
it is a stimulant use for ADHD

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 9:59:51 PM)
He is actually being removed from speech and language therapy because he is doing so well in "school" and his LD is no longer inhibiting his ability to learn.

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:00:00 PM)
she is very hyper without

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:00:20 PM)
tell me again what grade your child is in Lynne

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:00:50 PM)
2nd (the one with CAPD) and 4th, and kinder.

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:01:06 PM)
Marge- the other tests are the SSW, and the Phonemic Synthesis

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:01:40 PM)
Lynne: you may have already told me and I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat the information again, but what did you do for the success

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:02:12 PM)
what work for you and your child

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:02:25 PM)
I had Greg diagnosed in at 4. I think I was sensative to the signs of a problem because I teach and interpret for deaf children and Greg was showing some real signs of a hearing impairment or processing problem.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:02:54 PM)
early dx and intervention can be a God send

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:03:16 PM)
Littlemac -that is encouraging

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:03:21 PM)
Then why won't they do Jill's testing until she turns 7?

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:03:37 PM)
I had Jen tested early, but the problem is getting the help she needs

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:03:38 PM)
We are really pushing phonic, using the book The Writing Road to Reading by Romalda Bishop Spalding

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:04:05 PM)
sometimes the scoring is harder with younger children. More factors to consider.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:04:14 PM)
like lack of vocabulary and stuff.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:04:20 PM)
looks like alot of the success goes on in the home and you really can't depend but so much on the school doing what needs to be done

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:04:24 PM)
I have phonics books for Jill here and we sit down and make games out of them and she does fine

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:04:32 PM)
It took a team of audiologist to score Greg and it took a week.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:04:44 PM)
I have a PDD child who got services starting at age 2. At first they thought he was retarded and would not make gains. He is now in mainstream second grade and is the top of his class for math, also does well in social studies and science

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:04:47 PM)
amen cindi

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:05:03 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:05:06 PM)
I second Diane.

Mary (ID=119) (May 8, 2001 10:05:17 PM)
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Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:05:18 PM)
I work with at risk pre-schoolers anf kindergartners

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:05:38 PM)
in or ditrict child finf program

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:05:51 PM)
Hi Mary

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:05:57 PM)
hi Mary

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:05:57 PM)
Hi Mary

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:05:58 PM)
sorry about my typing :(

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:06:06 PM)
no problem Diane

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:06:24 PM)
I work for Head start (social worker) help other parents figure these things out but it seems so much harder to do for my own

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:06:35 PM)
Diane a contribute Matthews success to his Pre-K teacher

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:06:39 PM)
isn't that the truth Mama!

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:06:53 PM)
mam i got into this type of work because of Jake

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:07:04 PM)
I teach my kids for 3 hours a day and we get all the subjects in, including art and music. Cindi have youthought about getting something for the summer. It would only take about an hour or 2 aday.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:07:19 PM)
She would not let him withdrawl into his own world and got him started on the right path

Mary (ID=119) (May 8, 2001 10:07:28 PM)
Has anyone tried the computer software "dichonics" for their APD child?

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:07:39 PM)
would there be anything wrong with starting a support group my elem school for parents that rec special services from the you see that as a benefit

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:07:52 PM)
when he was a preschooler i didn't even know the progran existed :(

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:08:03 PM)
My second grader multiplies, divides and reads some pretty good books and I can't say the schools here had anything to do with that.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:08:18 PM)
I think a support group would be great.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:08:27 PM)
I have been fortunate in the schools here they have been great

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:08:30 PM)
thats a great idea

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:08:39 PM)
I have lynne, it just knowing where to start

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 10:08:52 PM)
No but I've heard about ait therapy, lots of questions about fm systems

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:08:53 PM)
I tried one here but the principal was threatened by that and tried to take it over and ruined it. It's now gone.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:09:01 PM)
I took that suggestion to my principal and he shot it down

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:09:15 PM)
The NCAPD would like to start support groups in NJ around Kean University and also in Jacksonville, Florida area. If anyone is interested in these areas, please email me at

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:09:21 PM)
melanie: i'm back... the acpt, ssw, etc... were those done by audiologist or slp?

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:09:33 PM)
Support groups are wonderful. I am a secretary for the local Autism support group. It has been a great help to the schools and local community to understand our kids

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:09:34 PM)
thers strength in #'s ladies scares alot of higher ups

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:09:36 PM)
try and search engine on homeschooling.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:09:40 PM)
I wouldn't start with a principal. Go tot he school board and include middle and high schools.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:09:53 PM)
that will get you connected to curriculm companies and stuff.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:09:59 PM)
I think what is so sad, I have talk to parents who children had a L.D. and things haven

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:10:22 PM)
haven't changed in the last 15 years, we are still fighting for our children

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:10:34 PM)
to have what they need to succeed in school

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:10:39 PM)
We have a parent resource center here that hosts support groups.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:10:54 PM)
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debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:10:59 PM)
hey blab!

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:11:00 PM)
Hi blab

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:11:03 PM)
Hey blab

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:11:03 PM)
Hi Blab

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:11:06 PM)
hi blab

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:11:11 PM)
hi blab

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 10:11:15 PM)
Lynne, what did you do? How do you start support groups in you're community?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:11:23 PM)
Hi Sorry to sign on so late

KMan (ID=118) (May 8, 2001 10:11:29 PM)
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lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:11:42 PM)
I went to our PTO. and asked for their help.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:11:48 PM)

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:11:55 PM)
Good idea Lynne.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:12:05 PM)
I was ask to run for president for our pto

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:12:11 PM)
They were great and helped get some speakers to come but then the principal got in on the deal and started making

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:12:20 PM)
If those interested in starting support groups would email me, perhaps we could share some info

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:12:27 PM)
haven't decided.....b/c I do want a support group of our school....and not sure if I can do both

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:12:27 PM)
We tried to set up a special needs PTO the district didn't want it

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:12:53 PM)
changes and it just wasn't what people wanted. We didn't want people talking AT us all the time. We wanted to do some talking

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:13:03 PM)
night ya'll gotta go get ready for work tomorrow we are having our federal review this week yyuucckk!!!!!

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:13:11 PM)
night mama

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:13:21 PM)
but don't you know that's dangerous lynne

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:13:26 PM)
night mama

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:13:27 PM)
night mama

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:13:31 PM)
night mama

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:13:32 PM)
Lynne, glad it worked for you w/your PTO

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:13:39 PM)
ya'll might figure out how to make them DO something

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:13:47 PM)
I'm at home alone tonight -too much going on I hope to catch up with ya'll next Tuesday-Debbie-thanks for your web site I visit it all the time

mamawooleybear (ID=108) (May 8, 2001 10:13:59 PM)
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Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:13:59 PM)
melanie: the reason i ask is because if you do acpt, ssw, etc., without checking the child's hearing first, you can get failures on the acpt, ssw, etc. by accident

Maryellen (ID=110) (May 8, 2001 10:14:07 PM)
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debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:14:09 PM)
Melanie, you are very very welcome.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:14:20 PM)
night melanie

Mary (ID=119) (May 8, 2001 10:14:50 PM)
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melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:14:52 PM)
Marge-his hearing was tested prior to the beginnning of the testing

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:15:13 PM)
melanie: by audiologist, or by slp?

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:15:24 PM)
IM going to have to scoot too if IM going to be up in 5 1/2 hours. Good night everyone. Please remember kids chat Friday night at 7 pm EST for those who want to participate.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:15:39 PM)
gnite debbie

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:15:40 PM)
good night debbie, and thanks

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:15:43 PM)
night Debbie

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:15:47 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:16:00 PM)
sorry I didn't make it last week Debbie jake had an overnight B-day party

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:16:09 PM)
melanie: well, that is encouraging... what did the thresholds show on the audiogram?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:16:10 PM)
night debbie

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:16:24 PM)
that's ok Diane, I"ll see you all Friday or next Tuesday evening

debbie (ID=112) (May 8, 2001 10:16:28 PM)
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Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:17:46 PM)
melanie: or do you see a square that says "SRT"? what was the SRT?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:17:54 PM)
I wish we had the capability to scroll back and see what we missed.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:18:10 PM)
lynne: you do: see the scroll bar to the right of the dialog?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:18:11 PM)
I was busy with the kids.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:18:18 PM)
push up on the tab

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:18:22 PM)
I have tried

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:18:24 PM)
lynne debbie does post the past chats on her site

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:18:36 PM)
Marge-the audiologist did not provide that in the report-she just stated normal hearing to both speech and tones bilaterally-i'm sure if I called her she would give me that info-but she is on maternity leave right now

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:18:45 PM)
how do you go back and read past chats

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:18:59 PM)
go to the archives cindi

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:19:05 PM)
I guess you have to wait till later and try and read in the archives.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:19:09 PM)

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:19:17 PM)
Can't you only scroll back to when you logged on?

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:19:24 PM)
melanie: the reason i ask is because we've had other parents on the chat who were told their child had "normal" hearing... and normal turns out to be a 30 db loss... which of course isn't normal.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:19:29 PM)
blab: correct

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:19:35 PM)
which is no fun, because you have to read alot of stuff you were in on to find the little you missed.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:19:37 PM)
yes blab thats true

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:20:35 PM)
I am not reading a 2 hour discussion for 5 minutes missed.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:20:46 PM)
how do you access the chats in the archive

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:21:07 PM)
just click on the date you want to read marge

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:21:11 PM)
Mark is probably going to get tested again this summer so I can get services for high school

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:21:17 PM)
No-I do feel his hearing is very close to normal-thanks Marge-I 'm really going to go this time-look forward to catching up next week

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:21:34 PM)
night melanie

melanie (ID=116) (May 8, 2001 10:21:41 PM)
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cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:21:44 PM)
Is anyone going to the conference in FL

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:21:45 PM)
night melanie

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:22:01 PM)

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:22:08 PM)
I'm thinking about it.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:22:08 PM)
not me, isn't it near the end of August

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:22:11 PM)
are you?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:22:15 PM)
too rich for my blood.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:22:22 PM)
no, not in my buget

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:22:24 PM)
I would like to, though

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:22:38 PM)
I wish I could go but school starts back up the 15th of aug

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:22:41 PM)
not in my budget either at least not this year

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:22:58 PM)
wow your school starts early

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:23:01 PM)
and I can't afford it either :(

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:23:06 PM)
You should ask in you sped dept. at school if they know of any funds that are available for conferences like this.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:23:12 PM)
ours start aug 7 or 8

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:23:22 PM)
WOW! That is early.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:23:27 PM)
we get out may 30

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:23:32 PM)
yep.....we get out may 25

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:23:41 PM)
We get out May 31

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:23:44 PM)
where are you diane school starts here after labor day but isn't out til June 12th

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:23:44 PM)
I thought AZ was the only ones who did that.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:23:50 PM)
We go til June 14

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:23:51 PM)
kids start back up 23 Aug

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:23:52 PM)

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:23:55 PM)
thats a good idea you think they would pay a parent to go

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:24:01 PM)
same in VA. Blab

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:24:03 PM)
or at least help w/the expense

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:24:19 PM)
I know that the state of VA has some program that funds things like that.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:24:24 PM)
probably not but they might send a teacher or specialist for the county.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:24:39 PM)
that would be good if they did send a teacher

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:24:47 PM)
I don't think they are going to spend or give money to a parent to go.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:24:48 PM)
I wish I work for SPED and it's like pulling teeth to get reimbursement for local conference

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:24:52 PM)
I agree

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:24:56 PM)
I called about funds that are specifically for parents,

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:25:11 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:25:16 PM)

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:25:33 PM)
we are waiting in suppense

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:25:39 PM)
cindi: hahaha

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:25:55 PM)
good luck cindi

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:25:56 PM)
the people handling the grant won't be handling it in August and they are supposed to get back to me about who will be handling the money after a meeting next wednesday.

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:25:58 PM)
<--- needs to go! gnite y'all!

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:26:07 PM)
g'nite Marge

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:26:11 PM)
night Marge

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:26:13 PM)

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:26:17 PM)
night Marge :)

Marge (ID=114) (May 8, 2001 10:26:24 PM)
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Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:27:06 PM)
I have to say we have an excellant SPED but there are NO funds for parent ed

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:27:42 PM)
right now I can't say we have a excellant sped

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:27:49 PM)
It's worth checking with them. I found out about it through our parent resource center. The funds don't come from your school's sped dept., but from an outside agency

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:28:12 PM)
often they don't want the parents too educated on disabilities, means they ask for more services

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:28:15 PM)
where do you find the parent resource center in your community

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:28:21 PM)
Va. Commonwealth Univ. was handing out the money, but now it will be going to someone else.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:28:28 PM)
We have one in the schools/

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:28:33 PM)
so true blad

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:28:47 PM)
most districts have a parent resource center here

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:28:50 PM)
in the public school baker

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:29:06 PM) has a directory of all Spec ed parent centers

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:29:12 PM)
Where in VA are you from Baker?

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:29:14 PM)
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baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:29:16 PM)
That's why it's even more important that we educate ourselves. Yes...the public schools.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:29:22 PM)
Stafford County

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:29:42 PM)
OH my Gosh! I am 10 minutes from you in Fauquier.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:29:44 PM)
thanks blad

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:29:45 PM)
Hi Candy

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:29:48 PM)
too funny.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:29:55 PM)
oops mispleeld alliance

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:30:01 PM)
Hello all.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:30:02 PM)
What school does you child go to?

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:30:06 PM)
Hi Candy

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:30:11 PM)
Drew Middle

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:30:14 PM)
hello Candy.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:30:19 PM)
it's blab

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:30:21 PM)
and yours? Hi Candy

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:30:49 PM)
what grade in middle school?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:30:52 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:30:53 PM)
Too funny. They are suppose to go to Mary Walter off of Rt. 17 but they are being homeschooled this year.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:31:02 PM)
I'm so sorry blab

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:31:04 PM)
mine is in 7th too

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:31:12 PM)
no big deal

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:31:15 PM)
How do you like homeschooling?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:31:15 PM)
mine are 2nd, 4th, and Kinder.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:31:24 PM)
I love it.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:31:26 PM)
3rd here

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:31:29 PM)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:31:33 PM)
It is working out sooooo well.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:31:41 PM)
2nd, 4th, 7th

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:31:42 PM)
my APD kid is 7th the other is in 2nd

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:31:47 PM)
I don't think I could teach my high schooler

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:31:49 PM)
Greg has made huge strides this year.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:32:01 PM)
my APD is 7th, my PDD is 2nd

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:32:12 PM)
I homeschooled one summer, don't want to if I don't have to

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:32:17 PM)
so much so, they are pulling him from speech and language this month.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:32:18 PM)
so has my Jake made honor roll this last quarter

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:32:34 PM)
That's good. Sometimes I think I might as well be homeschooling with the amount of time we spend on homewrk.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:32:43 PM)
what services do you get in 7th for the APD?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:32:45 PM)
amen baker

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:32:55 PM)
It makes me a little nervous, that he won't have that. I guess, I felt it was good back up.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:33:03 PM)
That was how I felt too.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:33:11 PM)
I put a HW limit on the IEP

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:33:25 PM)
my 7th grader gets LD reading, writing, and math

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:33:32 PM)
spend 6 hours there being told to be quiet, sit down and learn. Hell, I can't sit for 6 hours.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:33:39 PM)
he gets pulled out for tests and they are read to him

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:33:40 PM)
blab I'm going to try to include that next year

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:33:58 PM)
And to be doing it with disabilities?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:34:12 PM)
No way. It is no wonder my son was sooooo miserable.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:34:18 PM)
He works with a HI teacher 3 days/20 minutes and sees the school psych. His teachers have been wonderful in making accomodations in the classroom, but we do have a lot in his IEP for accoms. in case he gets someone who won't accomodate by request.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:34:41 PM)
I have a time limit and a sign off if he can't get the HW done in that time. no penalty rule for late or unfinished its reduced or he finishes it another time

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:35:09 PM)
blab I'm writing that down that is a great accom

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:35:24 PM)
baker: what is a HI teacher?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:35:26 PM)
He is completing harder work in shorter amounts of time and with a lot less stress.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:35:32 PM)
what sort of accoms, baker?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:35:35 PM)
hear impared.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:35:37 PM)
I haven't been able to get any thing for my son other than a sound field system. I can't get the special programs director or principal to understand that this is not just a hearing issue. I am going to try changing schools.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:35:43 PM)
impaired that is.

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:35:44 PM)
yes it is Diane

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:35:47 PM)
yes, he also has a hearing loss.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:36:21 PM)
Candy have you tried getting a report from an aud w/recommendations

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:36:27 PM)
Candy, would changing schools make a difference on what they will give you

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:36:28 PM)
it's amazing I get something usefull here everyweek :)

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:36:28 PM)
I use to teach and interpret for HI children in a public school in AZ. We moved 4 years ago and I chose to stay home.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:36:39 PM)
notetaker, leave room for tests, extra time on tests, spellchecker, use of alpha smart when needed, repesr, rephrase and all the usual.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:37:11 PM)
do you have an Alpha Smart Baker?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:37:14 PM)
Cool. James(my son) and I are taking a sign language class together.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:37:17 PM)
We have audiologists reports and all of that. The other school has a younger principal who has grasped the concept of processing disorder and not just hearing loss.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:37:23 PM)
No. The school does.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:37:23 PM)
Where at?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:37:32 PM)
We had those before the APDdx except Alpha smart what is that?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:37:55 PM)
A portable keyboard

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:38:01 PM)
where did you find a sign lang course you could both take?

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:38:08 PM)
With Mrs. Kalson? She is a teacher here in Faq. but she lives in Stafford.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:38:19 PM)
my son is also dyslexic so we have alot of accoms that go hand in hand wioth the AOD

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:38:20 PM)
I have an Alpha Smart for my son but have not done anything with it yet

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:38:26 PM)
One of the HI teachers in Stafford offers it free at the high school

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:38:35 PM)
oops APD

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:38:37 PM)
No, not Mrs. Kalson

cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:38:51 PM)
First time in the room and I have learned alot

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:38:52 PM)
tried an emate but just use a room computer now it was easuer

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:39:00 PM)
what is Alphs smart ?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:39:09 PM)
wish there was a course here

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:39:19 PM)
He wants to take ASL as a foreign lang. in HS

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:39:24 PM)
I portable key board

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:39:25 PM)
oh. I was wondering. I started in high school. It was offered as a foreign language

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:39:33 PM)
Alpha Smart is a portable keyboard

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:39:41 PM)
cool I need to look into that

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:39:44 PM)
suggested ASL for Mark for for lang He wants to take French

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:39:46 PM)
they cost 300.00

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:39:50 PM)
What do you use the alpha smart for?

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:39:51 PM)
Yes, it is, and a lot of colleges are accepting it.

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:40:00 PM)
It has helped me on more than one occasion and with many jobs in school/college.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:40:01 PM)
For word processing.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:40:07 PM)
they can take notes and the like

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:40:16 PM)
how do you find out about colleges accepting ASL?

cindy (ID=111) (May 8, 2001 10:40:19 PM)
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cindi (ID=117) (May 8, 2001 10:40:19 PM)
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Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:40:24 PM)
that would be wonderful for my Jake

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:40:39 PM)
You can buy re-furbished Alpha smarts for much cheaper.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:40:56 PM)
thanks for the info baker

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:41:10 PM)
if you type alpha smart in the search engine you can get the company on line to order it

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:41:19 PM)
James wanted to take Spanish at first, but I thought it might be too hard for him, and his teachers would not recommend it. They are all behind this though.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:41:21 PM)
If you just checked in the school's catalog or ask them they would be able to tell you. It depends on degrees and programs on whether they accept ASL as a foreign language.

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:41:46 PM)
thanks littlemac

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:41:49 PM)
anytime Diane

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:42:06 PM)
thanks wish I knew where he was likely to go He is in 7th now, so long way off still

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:42:11 PM)
you are welcome

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:42:20 PM)
Welp, I need to get off and prepare for tomorrow. See you all next Tues. He will find that it helps him as well. We were using sign with my son. My kids arelearning that here at home. They chose that for their 2nd language.

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:42:31 PM)
Night Lynne

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:42:37 PM)
writing is torture for him

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:42:39 PM)
I think it's great.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:42:45 PM)
night Lynne

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:42:46 PM)
it is for my son too Diane

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:42:50 PM)
at least I can help w/French but I think he will need a FM for conversation in the classroom

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:42:51 PM)
Night lynne

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:42:52 PM)
g'night neighbor

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:43:06 PM)
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Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:43:19 PM)
I scribe most of his homework now

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:43:20 PM)
one day we will have to meet, neighbor. Maybe get a group started out here in the sticks.haha

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:43:25 PM)
good night

lynne (ID=106) (May 8, 2001 10:43:31 PM)
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blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:43:34 PM)
Mark types his HW

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:43:34 PM)
I figure if he learns sign, we can even sign vocab in other languages.

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:43:55 PM)
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cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:44:03 PM)
hi traci

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:44:03 PM)
hi traci

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:44:06 PM)
My son uses my computer now, will be better when I program his Alpha Smart

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:44:11 PM)
baker do you speak a for lang?

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:44:13 PM)
Hi everyone

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:44:17 PM)
James types a lot too.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:44:21 PM)
I know that I asked this the other night on the email here but how do you apply the different areas of apd to specific problems in education?

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:44:23 PM)
Hi Traci

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:44:25 PM)
a little spanish

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:44:29 PM)
Hi Traci.

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:44:51 PM)
I have to run now too. See you all next time, and good night.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:45:02 PM)
night baker

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:45:04 PM)
night baker thanks for the info :)

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:45:07 PM)
night Baker

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:45:09 PM)
night baker

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:45:16 PM)
depends on the problem

baker34 (ID=113) (May 8, 2001 10:45:16 PM)
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blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:45:48 PM)
what is he missing?

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:45:56 PM)
I was looking for some help

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:46:11 PM)
traci does your child have APD ?

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:46:15 PM)
Night all gotta run, thanks for the chat

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:46:17 PM)
what problems is your child having in school?

littlemac (ID=115) (May 8, 2001 10:46:24 PM)
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cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:46:29 PM)
night little

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:46:33 PM)
night little thanks to you too for thr info

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:46:48 PM)
Writing and some areas of math, but not in the usual classroom setting.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:46:59 PM)
night little.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:47:32 PM)
Is math in SpecEd? Is it handwritng or processing problems? or notetaking?

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:48:33 PM)
my daughters speech and lang specialist at school tested my daughters hearing and she passed the reg hearing test....but when she tested with back round noise she had a big concern

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:48:59 PM)
I feel she shows alot of signs of capd

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:49:06 PM)
He is in the 4th grade but intellectually at the 7th grade, when he has more than two sets of directions and in the setting of profiency tests he freezes up and can not think of on thing to write down.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:49:10 PM)
that is a common APD problem some use a FM device for that

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:49:24 PM)
thats what it was

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:49:36 PM)
her right ear was alot worse

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:49:43 PM)
On the math he is using his fingers to recall information.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:50:00 PM)
does he have testing mods for proficiency tests?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:50:20 PM)
I must go to ladies see you next week night :)

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:50:34 PM)
night Diane

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:50:35 PM)
no, the school says because he is doing well and unless I can show specifically what is a problem they will not do anything.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:50:39 PM)
candy do you mean he doesn't know math facts and has to count them out?

Diane (ID=109) (May 8, 2001 10:51:01 PM)
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blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:51:05 PM)
does he have an IEP? candy

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:51:28 PM)
No, when he is asked to work the problems, he will use his hands to help him remember what the numbers are that he is adding together or so on.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:51:53 PM)
can he use a calculator?

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:52:00 PM)
No, they have a 504 for his come and go hearing loss because "there is not a problem other than that.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:52:06 PM)
has your son been taught touch math

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:52:26 PM)
They are not allowed to use calculators and they don't see a need to teach him that.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:52:27 PM)
touch math is good we have used it too

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:52:51 PM)
where can I learn to do touch math to teach him?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:52:54 PM)
Has he been tested for a spec LD in math?

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:54:12 PM)
ON the multifactor eval he has a 19 point decrepency in math but because he scored high anyway there is no problem

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:54:12 PM)
he has a 19 point descrepency on his MFE in math but "because he scored high anyway there is not a problem"

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:54:12 PM)
Candy send an email to the CAPD list and I'll look up the info upstairs somewher and email it to you on the touchmath

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:54:12 PM)
check in your area if they have a special school for children to go to and ask them for a copy of touch math

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:54:41 PM)
Okay, I will do that. Thanks.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:54:58 PM)
Is ther an ouside specialist you can get to write a report to the school?

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:54:59 PM)
What can you do to help with the as he calls it "Brain Lock"

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:55:15 PM)
if you can show a need and if your child teacher see's a need maybe you can get some kind of help

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:55:31 PM)
We have a report from one specialist, 2 audiologists and a pediatrician.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:55:52 PM)
you will have to ask for an MFE and get an IEP instead of just a 504 and push for services

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:56:26 PM)
Candy, you maybe able to go OHI w/your child

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:56:28 PM)
call a meeting and give copies to the school put in writing what spec services you think he needs

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:56:44 PM)
that is what I had to do e

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:56:46 PM)
I think you are right. But I'm just not sure how to show them exactly where his needs are. What is OHI?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:56:49 PM)
OHI would be a good idea both my kids are OHI

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:56:59 PM)
Other health impaired

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:57:02 PM)
other health impaired

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:57:23 PM)
Is that on the 504 or IEP?

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:57:30 PM)
it is a form your doctor would fill out stating that it effects his learning

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:57:32 PM)

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 10:57:34 PM)

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:57:43 PM)
Candy have you checked out any of the websites for spec ed?

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 10:58:05 PM)
THe special programs director wanted us to drop his 504 completely this last year. Not yet, what are some good one?

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:58:13 PM) has a good article comparing IEPs and 504s

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:58:37 PM)
www' is another

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:58:57 PM)

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 10:59:10 PM)
does your evalution from the school state anywhere that further testing should be done, or say that results of this test along w/other testing should be taken into consideration

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 10:59:39 PM)
your parent center is also a good resource there is a directory at

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:00:07 PM)
thanks, no it does not because at the time I didn't know enough to push anything or recognize the problems and he scored so high that they have dismissed anything to do with this at all.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:00:24 PM)
how long has it been

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:00:36 PM)
you can ask for further testing in writing to determine if your child qualifies for an IEP

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 11:00:38 PM)
I have a question cindi my daughters sp and lang specialist has written a letter to seek outside testing...will this be covered by the school?

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:00:56 PM)
you need to ask them to pay

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:01:15 PM)
The mfe was done in October 1999.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:01:24 PM)
you can get another test now

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:01:38 PM)
how are his grades

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:01:49 PM)
I think I will, do I need to put all of this in writing? All A's. That is the problem.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:02:10 PM)
you need to put everything in writing

traci (ID=123) (May 8, 2001 11:02:13 PM)
good night all

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:02:15 PM)

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cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:02:19 PM)
nite traci

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:02:20 PM)
traci, first the school tests/evals and then you have to disagree w/their testing/evals and ask for a free independent test/eval they have to give it or explain why theirs was appropriate

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:02:30 PM)
He is failing the profiency tests that the state reqires him to pass before going to the next grades.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:02:47 PM)
how much time are you spending on HW

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:03:35 PM)
is it in one area or all

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:03:37 PM)

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:03:43 PM)
In the classroom if he is having a problem he is able to get up walk around , do something else and so on. But not on these tests and I'm afraid that by not working on this now it will hit us when is depending solely on his hearing.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:03:44 PM)
then he needs mods at least for testing or needs to be taught good test taking strategies

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:04:27 PM)
does the teacher see that him getting up makes a difference

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:04:40 PM)
He does not interpret words correctly all the time so we don't know if he is getting information correctly.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:05:27 PM)
Yes, even giving him extra time to do things or working at his pace and not straight along with the others, but that is fine for now but not in high school or middle school where they have to change classes every hour or so.

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:05:28 PM)
I would get further testing, and explain all this to the evaluator,

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:05:34 PM)
we have these testing mods would they help: quiet setting /small group/breaks allowed/ extended time/can have directions read/

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:06:06 PM)
does he have team teachers yet

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:06:45 PM)
I think they would. Especially the small breaks and extended time and quiet setting, that is one of the problems he has that foreground/background problem. he starts the team teaching next year.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:06:52 PM)
an LD tutor or spec ed teacher can often help a kid deal w/the diff teachers and class changes

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:07:08 PM)
thanks for the chat ladies, I have enjoyed and learned a lot tonight......

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:07:19 PM)
I think so too. Night Cindy.

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:07:24 PM)
will there be a team leader

cindi (ID=122) (May 8, 2001 11:07:31 PM)
hopefully I will meet you again next week

blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:07:31 PM)

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blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:07:57 PM)
wow its late better go to

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:08:10 PM)
I don't know. That is what I am hoping if we change to the new school. It is in the same district just one of the 3 elementary schools. Thanks for all your help.

Candy (ID=121) (May 8, 2001 11:08:25 PM)
Good night.

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blab (ID=120) (May 8, 2001 11:08:27 PM)
bye email on list if you have more Qs

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drewk (ID=125) (May 8, 2001 11:11:14 PM)
Am i too late?

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